What Would You Improve in St. Charles in 2013?
If you could make a New Year's resolution for St. Charles, what would it be?
More than 45 percent of Americans make a resolution every year, according to statisticbrain.com. Some people vow to live a healthier lifestyle, others promise to spend more time with family, and many say they will try to save money.
As millions of Americans make resolutions to improve their lives in 2013, what could we do right here in St. Charles to make it an even better place to live?
The city of St. Charles has just come off an 18-month effort to draw up a new draft comprehensive plan that would be used as a guide to future development in the city over the next two decades. The task force that pulled together the first formal draft of that plan has passed it on to the city, and the Plan Commission will begin its formal review of the document in January.
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Also, the Red Gate Bridge opened to vehicle traffic on Dec. 15, about a month ofter the winter lull began in the work on the East Main Street/Route 64 reconstruction project. City officials have said Red Gate Bridge already has recorded as many as 5,000 vehicles in one day — about 1,000 more than the expected average. Will that lessen the congestion on East Main/Route 64 when the reconstruction project picks up again in March?
Tell us in the comment section below what we can do to improve St. Charles in the coming year — or blog in Local Voices about why you love living here!
John Michael Burke
7:17 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Make all of St Charles, but especially our public schools safe and welcoming for all persons, but especially those who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender or questioning. The actions, or more accurately decisions not to act on this single issue by the Superintendent and the Board of Eduction have been irresponsible and regressive.
Rich Hamilton
8:40 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Refocus downtown on retail and convenient parking. Attractive Downtown housing as well. We've got enough food and beverage.
screamingbaby
9:50 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Revamp the east side corridor. Bring in higher end retail and restaurants. Work to make Charlestown Mall a more inviting, relaxing place with boutiques, coffee shops, and gathering areas. Finish North Avenue construction with the citizens in mind- keep it clean and use fencing to protect the walkers along the sidewalk. Make sure the intersections have common-sense traffic patterns during construction. Make St. Charles more attractive to invite home buyers to WANT to move here.
Sue Tills
11:08 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Improve the Campton Hills/Rt 64 intersection to reduce traffic congestion and add sidewalks all the way to Campton Hills rd so pedestrians and bikers can get to downtown safely.
STC
12:56 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
A bike path or bike lane from Randall to Leroy Oakes/Great Western Trail either along Dean St. or the old railroad would help keep pedestrians and bikes off the busy roadway.
V.P.
1:02 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Downtown St. Charles needs a resonably priced family restaurant, that's opened after 9pm. If you are staying at the Baker Hotel and arrive late, where can you get a cup of coffee? After the Manor Restaurant closed where does one go? Not a bar atmosphere, or where you need a car to get to, just soup & a sandwich, a cup of coffee/tea. There are enough bars that keep the police busy. More like a Denny's, IHOP, Perkins, - pick one. This town would make Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob Smith (the founders of AA) millionaires. Where do you walk to after a venue at the Arcada? Not Smitty's On The Corner, they close early. Please, think of a diner. Nothing fancy, just one with good American cuisine, resonably priced, and family friendly. At this point, how about a White Castle?!!!
Linda
9:14 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
A White Castle, Denny's IHOP, Perkins would NOT fit in beautiful downtown St. Charles! I agree about getting a great diner for people that don't want to go to a bar! We do have too many bars in St. Charles and we don't need anymore!
Ted Schnell
7:29 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Doug, I am not certain how St. Charles' zoning laws are set up in terms of regulating such businesses. As I understand it, a community cannot prohibit specific kinds of businesses that otherwise are allowed under state law, although it can use zoning laws to restrict where they will be allowed. In the same way, cities regulate other businesses -- for example, prohibiting someone from purchasing a house in a residential neighborhood and then replacing it with a small factory.
Thomas Keating
1:20 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Add left turn lanes at 2nd Street and Main. Saint Charles has grown far too large to permit this type of congestion to continue at one of the primary intersections in town.
Doug Eden
2:08 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
My resolution is simple. Get rid of the title loan company on Randall Road and Main street and all of the politicians that allowed this type of business in St. Charles in the first place.
Ted Schnell
5:06 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Just food for thought Doug: Can you propose a legal means of prohibiting these types of businesses? Having covered this issue before in other communities, I believe the rule of law has removed this kind of authority from local politicians. At best, communities can control where the businesses are located via zoning laws. I raise the point only because local politicians sometimes get blamed for things over which they have little or no control.
Doug Eden
2:03 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Test to see if I have this figured out
Doug Eden
8:56 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Mayor D---weigh in on this. Surly our local politicians have the power to have prevented a title loan company on this site. Why was this type of business allowed in St Charles? What does this type of business say to any visitors to our city--yuck!!
Kim Malay
1:00 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Doug unfortunately Ted is right. If the zoning allows it they can't stop it. This is something they will have to think about for the future. There is a fine line on what they can control and what they can't. I am not saying I agree with the use, I am just saying they didn't have the ability to stop it.
Ted Schnell
1:18 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
I mentioned it because the anti-local politician sentiment also often pops up in communities that have strip clubs or similar venues that cannot be subject to outright bans. Many communities regulate those by including them in zoning for, say, industrial areas, where there is minimal impact on residential neighborhoods.
Doug Eden
4:50 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
So what you are telling me is that a massage parlor could have gone in there because the "zoning" is correct for commercial business use. I think if any of our politicians had any hootzpa they would have prevented a title company from going in. Unfortunately city council just looks at someone paying property tax on that land and collecting whatever revenue they can bring in for the city. I really question how much the city cares about the west side of St. Charles.
Michael Mak
3:06 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Yes, we need a Family restaurant , right where the Manor House use to be. A nice Greek snack Shop. Have Corfu, move ! Scrap the plans for a quarter of those condo's for the 1st street Development and talk to Corfu now ! Or get the owner of the Manor House on the phone!
Linda
9:17 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
We need something better then the Corfu!
Tom Jackson
9:25 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
You will never see another coffee shop like the manor there again, unless the hotel baker wants to sell the property to compete with themselves.
Kay Ray
4:09 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
1. whole foods in Charlestowne Mall , how about upper level sears area?
2. no more bars in downtown.
Jacob Lee
4:55 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
" My resolution is simple. Get rid of the title loan company on Randall Road and Main street and all of the politicians that allowed this type of business in St. Charles in the first place."
I agree. That intersection is a eye sore.
I wish they would develop the empty space along the river across from Baker Hotel as soon as possible. Try anything to get business back to Charlestowne mall.Tear down Tin Cup Pass retail strip mall
jane callahan
6:47 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
I agree about the TitleMax, hope there will be a lack of demand. I would love a Whole Foods in the mall, as well as a Kane Cty Childrens Museum. They are a wonderful draw for families and would encourage the retail and restaurant to return to the mall. I love our downtown, a "regular" diner would be great,but no fast food chains,yuck. I would love to see a large portion of the first street land devoted to riverfront park for the community. It will be a shame to fill it up with apartments when it could be a gorgeous landscaped area plus some parking for the retailers trying to make it from Fox River Plaza to 1st st and Main.
Roxanne Bell
8:06 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Bring back Pi!!!!!!
Linda
9:25 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
We were in Charlestowne Mall this evening and remarked how nice the mall could be. It looks very pretty with the Christmas decorations. The mall has a lot of potential but we need to get high end anchor stores into the mall which will give one a reason to go to the mall other than for VonMauer. We don't need an ice skating rink or any food grocery store in the mall! A Fresh Market or Whole Foods should have gone in where the "Savers" is now located! Yorktown years ago was the pits and now look at it! It's very nice with the restaurants and outer stores surrounding the mall. If we don't do something soon, it'll end up like the St. Charles Mall....flattened!
David Amundson
10:15 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
We could learn quite a bit from the story of Randhurst (one of the very first enclosed shopping malls in the entire country). Being that it is located one mile from the house in which I grew up, I got to witness it through dominance, decline, rebirth, decline, rebirth, decline, complete overhaul, and return to glory. It takes some serious vision, planning, and loads of cash, but it can be done. The question is with Geneva Commons so close, can the same results be duplicated at Charlestowne? Can a new Charlestowne out-Geneva Commons the Geneva Commons? The following article from the Chicago Tribune provides one possible roadmap to recovery that does not end with a lowest common denominator solution. http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/theskyline/2010/06/with-a-central-dome-that-resembled-a-flying-saucer-the-three-legged-mall-that-opened-in-northwest-suburban-mount-prospect-in.html
Brian Doyle
1:20 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
Thanks for sharing, David. I find the following excerpts to be very intriguing:
"Today, in an act of radical design surgery, Randhurst is being remade into an open-air, mixed-use development that will have many features of a traditional downtown, including shops, movie theaters, offices and a hotel....
...Not surprisingly, given the history of malls killing off mom-and-pop stores and even-bigger malls stealing business from early shopping centers, the movement has stoked fears. In Mount Prospect, some merchants fret privately that the faux downtown at Randhurst will siphon off business from the town's real downtown (left), which sits about a mile to the south along Metra's Northwest line and is studded with new public buildings and residential midrises."
Can the same results be duplicated in St. Charles? I think that depends on whether community activists can be persuaded to embrace the concepts embodied by Randhurst.
David Amundson
11:05 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
If we actually followed the Randhurst model, there is really nothing controversial to embrace; they took a two-category commercial use (the theater was already there, having been part of the mix since at least the early 70's) and radically re-worked it to be a four-category commercial use that just looks/functions slightly differently. Not much to oppose there, as nobody is opposed to success that does not significantly change the paradigm.
If you go back even earlier into the the history of the Mall, the office-use component was actually an integral part of the design of the Mall when it was built in the 60's. It was removed in favor of a food court when I was in the early 80's, and now is back again. So in a lot of ways, they really did not rock the boat all that much. All they did was to take what they historically had, add a component to it (the hotel), and then apply some design talent to the equation.
Brian Doyle
11:28 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Sorry. I read mixed use and thought that mean residential.
Kim Malay
6:46 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Brian as I have said many times the residents don't have a problem with office use in mixed use, they have a problem with the residential. Mixed use for us should be mainly retail with other components of commerical office and even possibly education. Just no residential with the exception of downtown.
Carolyn Shannon
8:04 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
I'd like to see an international foods market with a bakery and seating area/cafe in the downtown area, or where Applied Composites used to be. Another improvement would be to provide a safer way for pedestrians and bicycles to cross Main Street downtown.
Rich Swenson
8:47 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
With Charlestown, if you want to work from what you already have to try and save $, I believe you try and build on the successful theater business and create more entertainment on the west end like a "Dave & Busters" or a copy of that concept, a state of the art bowling and maybe ice/roller skating, indoor golf range, higher end miny golf/ batting cage complex and an affordable family food maybe like a "Country Buffet" or Pizza. Build a family and adult place to spend afternoons and evenings with a variety of stuff to do. The batting cages could even offer a "training" facility for children like they have in Carol Stream that the schools would use also. The other end, could still be redevloped with the Whole Foods, and some other retail that are not in the area (bring in new names from around the country) to attract shoppers from outside the area. They do exist. That would be the cheapest way where you maybe don't need to rebuild the entire mall.
JMA
11:37 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
A sidewalk from Timbers to North High School would be great. We also need the left turn signal into the high school to be consistant as well as a left turn signal on Main and 31 going North.
Vanessa Bell-LaSota
1:12 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
great ideas, everyone-keep 'em coming.....
Lois Lane
4:52 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012
There was a time several years ago that Yorktown mall was a frightening place to go. Trashy, stores closed, scary parking lot. And somehow how they have been able to do a complete turn around and now have wonderful stores and restaurants. Perhaps someone needs to contact Yorktown's owners and find out what the secret was. There are plenty of families in the Charlestown area that would support the stores.
Mayor D
8:20 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Great comment Lois.....stay tuned.
David Amundson
11:11 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
New LED streetlights. More efficient than what we have from an energy-consumption standpoint (lower operating cost for the City), last two to four times as long as what we currently use (reducing the labor costs associated with their upkeep), have better CRI's (Color Rendering Index; you do not look orange when standing under one), better ability to focus the light on the street (far less light streaming in through your bedroom windows at night), and add significantly less light pollution to the night skies (they can be installed in a way that complies with the Dark Skies Initiative). All in all, the City saves money, we look 'green' and progressive as a community while doing so, and we improve our own quality of life. What is holding us back from making the change?
David Amundson
11:16 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Finish the retrofit of the lighting on the Municipal Building, or abandon the current retrofit in favor of an LED retrofit and get the job done. The current situation of one-half metal hallide and one-half high-pressure sodium lamps makes the building look undignified at night. It is our hood ornament, the most striking image of our City, and for a fairly low cost, we could do a ton to improve its looks at night.
eh_potthast
3:37 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Obviously Yorktowne mall is owned by a company who actually cares... I think a Trader Joe's would be great. I have already written to the corporation online and let them know this. Maybe if enough people did this. The one all the way on Fabyan and Randall is pretty far away. That and that empty torn down eyesore area on Rt 38 there where the St. Charles mall used to be.... it has been way to many years getting that thing developed!! Get a move on!
Mayor D
7:13 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Eh- how soon we forget. The Towne Center proposal would have brought $300 mil to the old mall site. Whole Foods had been looking at the former Dominic's site for a west suburban location. It all went away when opponents were unwilling to compromise on a residential component of the TC proposal, and pressured the council to vote it down.