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No Favored Treatment for East High Athletes Busted at Party

Teen party fallout: St. Charles Community Unit School District 303 chief says the district’s Code of Conduct holds student athletes to a higher, tougher standard than other students.

Residents of an East Side neighborhood have been expressing outrage over a Nov. 2 house party where St. Charles police took into custody 71 people, including 65 juveniles. The homeowner and four juveniles were cited, while police contacted parents to come fetch the other kids and take them home.

If the chaotic scene police came upon when they arrived at the Persimmon Drive home during that party was enough to enrage neighbors, the fallout afterward also has inflamed some parents, some of whom believe St. Charles East High School has shown favoritism in regard to disciplining student athletes caught up in the incident.

The favoritism claim, however, is not true, according to Dr. Donald Schlomann, the superintendent of schools for St. Charles Community Unit School District 303.

Speaking to a reporter before the start of Monday night’s Board of Education meeting, Schlomann said student athletes are required to sign on to a Code of Conduct governing their behavior and how they represent themselves, their team and their school. The detailed Code of Conduct also applies to students participating in other extracurricular activities.

“In general the consequences for an athlete — they’re held to a different, higher standard than our students who are not,” Schlomann said. Students who are not involved in extracurricular activities are not required to sign on to the Code of Conduct, he said.

The code requires a student attending a party where drugs or alcohol are being used, whether or not he/she consumes those substances, to report him/herself to the district “and/or leave” the party. The idea, Schlomann said, is to encourage the kids not only to adhere to the standard of conduct by getting away from the problem, but also to show integrity by reporting themselves when an infraction occurs. Some students show that integrity.

“If you do neither one of those, there are going to be consequences,” Schlomann continued. “And I can tell you right now that no one (at the Nov. 2 party) self-reported.”

As a result, “those students who are athletes that were involved in this incident are receiving consequences that students that maybe are not athletes are not receiving,” he said.

When St. Charles police arrived at the home about 9:15 p.m. after receiving a report of an underage drinking party at Persimmon and Hunt Club drives, they found chaos, with “numerous cars and juveniles” moving around the block. It got worse as they approached the home, where they found “a large number of juveniles fled through the back door. Other juveniles were seen climbing out of windows.”

Lisa J. Lorenzini, 50, of the 200 block of Persimmon Drive, was cited with social hosting, a local ordinance punishable by a fine of between $250 and $500. Four St. Charles teens, ages 15, 16, 17 and 17, were charged with possession/consumption of alcohol by a minor, police said. Another 65 juveniles, ages 14 to 18, were held in the home until their parents or guardians were called and then arrived to take them home.

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joe torre November 14, 2012 at 04:22 PM
Ted, I agree wit you.
joe torre November 14, 2012 at 04:24 PM
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musicdude72 November 14, 2012 at 04:46 PM
Bob, Thank you for saying that "teenagers are going to experiment (and we all did it.) How did you become so smart to know what every single teenager in the world has done? Participating in extra curricular activities is a privilege and if students sign an agreement (Code of Conduct) and then violate that code, then they lose privileges. In the real world, if I sign a contract with my employer and then stop doing my job, do you think that firing me from the job is sending the wrong message? If so, I would like to have you as boss. Please let me know where you work so I can apply to work (or not work) under your supervision.
David Potter November 14, 2012 at 04:52 PM
I too have kids that grew up here in St Charles. I think the police do a great job in controlling the parties and underage drinking here. I also have first hand knowledge that in most circumstances the police use common sense and deal with our kids with a reasonable open mind. I salute them for taking the time to call every kids parent and staying until all of the kids were taken home safe.
Julie Saviano November 14, 2012 at 06:08 PM
I agree 100% with Ted. Kids need to learn about the consequences of their actions now, not later. They need to learn to take responsibility and learn to make better choices. I am so tired of disrespectful, self-important, bratty teens (and tweens) who think the world owes them something just because they were born. Parents need to take back control of their kids! I never smoked, tried drugs, or drank when I was a teen (sorry, Joe). Why, you ask? Because I knew that if I was ever caught breaking the law I wouldn't be able to sit for at least a week and that would be if I got off easy. Therefore - I didn't do anything stupid!
Ted Schnell (Editor) November 14, 2012 at 06:33 PM
I did more stupid things than I care to remember, in spite of my parents being strict and placing high expectations on us in terms of respect and good behavior. That said, I learned some very valuable lessons from my parents -- and from accepting the consequences for the dumb things I did. I tell my kids I want them to learn to not make the mistakes I made, but also to learn from the mistakes they make on their own.
Athletes Mom November 14, 2012 at 07:32 PM
I had a student athlete who was in attendance at this party who wasn't doing anything other than trying to hang out with some of her friends and she self reported that night so Mr.Schlomann should get his facts correct before stating none of the student athletes had enought integrity to do so.
Athletes Mom November 14, 2012 at 07:36 PM
I had a student athlete who was in attendance at this party who wasn't doing anything other than trying to hang out with some of her friends and she self reported that night so Mr.Schlomann should get his facts correct before stating none of the student athletes had enough integrity to do so.
Ted Schnell (Editor) November 14, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Dr. Schlomann made a reference to integrity in terms of students who self-report. I'm mincing words here, but I did not quote Dr. Schlomann as saying that none of the student athletes had enough integrity to self-report, although one might infer that, as you obviously did. I'd also point out, as someone who has been a journalist for nearly three decades, that administrators speak with the best information they have at the time, and sometimes their information is not entirely correct. Certainly, if one of your student athletes did self report, that is a good thing and reflects well on that student's integrity and values. Faulting Dr. Schlomann's lack of omniscience on the matter, however, seems to me to be misdirected. Is it not more likely that a failure to communicate that student's self-reporting up the chain of command, as it were, is responsible? Where did that breakdown in communication occur?
fed up III November 14, 2012 at 08:35 PM
In the past, students that were coded had to serve a suspension. Because so many athletes were at the party and coded, they had to make an exception to the rule, i.e. write an apology. The "No Favored Treatment" really means that everyone is favored in this case.
Ted Schnell (Editor) November 14, 2012 at 08:48 PM
As I read the Code of Conduct policy, there is discretion in terms of the punishment that is meted out. I'd say that discretion is there to allow the district some flexibility in instances such as this. Police cited four kids with underage consumption of alcohol; they did not cite 65 others. Your statement implies that all 69 kids should have received the same punishment, and I think most people would consider that unjust.
fed up III November 14, 2012 at 09:01 PM
In the past the 65 others would have been punished by more than writing a letter. They would and should be less than the 4 cited.
joe torre November 14, 2012 at 10:15 PM
Athletes Mom, you should be proud of your daughter and yourself. You raised her right. Bravo!!!
SportzFan November 14, 2012 at 11:07 PM
I was amazed that the Police held 70 kids and called each parent for pick-up...bravo. Times have changed.
Ted Schnell (Editor) November 14, 2012 at 11:49 PM
The police officers I've met so far in this community are a credit to the badges they wear. They deal with a lot of people making poor decisions that have lousy consequences. They deserve a lot of credit, particularly in instances like this.
Judy November 15, 2012 at 12:00 AM
I know a student athlete who was at the party. They went believing they were attending a simple Halloween party and their parent dropped them off. Apparently some students got in with alcohol. This person didn't know alcohol was present, certainly not at first. In fact, I'm not sure if they knew at anytime before the police arrived due to the size of the gathering. Many fled the premises as police arrived and weren’t identified, thus the party was even larger than reported. It was only a bit over an hour after being dropped off that they were picked up again. I believe this was a good lesson for the kids. If you're at a gathering and become aware illegal substances are present- leave- PRONTO!! Then, self-report. I don't think this student understood the rules of conduct as clearly as they should have, but they did make contact with the athletic dept. The ones who didn’t flee will be publicly chastised, but hopefully those who fled will take note as well. You actually CAN learn from the mistakes of others. As for the parent, I certainly support consequences for those who allow parties involving alcohol or drugs. However, I don't know the particulars as to when the she became aware of the situation, or her exact response, so can’t comment except to say that any teenage party that large is bound to get out of hand. It would have been better to call it a night and send everyone home as the party grew. Hopefully this can be a lesson for all parents as well.
Judy November 15, 2012 at 12:02 AM
sorry for the readability of my commnet. I'm not sure why there was no space between paragraphs. Must have made my own mistake! :-)
Jerry November 15, 2012 at 07:33 AM
Judy & Athletes mom explained it all so well ! Ted are you and musicdude on med's ? Does everyone forget the controversy about ST East athletic director who quit 2 years ago ?? Scandal !! Hey everybody, "We the taxpayer's" pay the salaries of the school, police, etc.. "WE" decide code of conduct, not them ! There should be a parental hearing when their kid's are at a party or get into trouble. Let the parents dish out the punishment, not the schools ! "We" know how to raise our own children ! We built this town, and "we" the taxpayers have the final say ! Stop being divided ! America proved it last week ! Otherwise , we will follow Greece, France etc...
Ted Schnell (Editor) November 15, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Jerry, I am not certain exactly what I wrote that offended you enough that you would resort to a personal attack. I believe I have been fair and reasonable and have avoided succumbing to the assumptions some have made. I have remained focused on that which is known and tried to illustrate the flaws in making assumptions. Based on my own observations, people who choose to make personal attacks generally are expressing an emotional reaction when reason fails to provide them the basis for a less incendiary but more reasoned and fruitful response. The same is true of patriotic jingoism, which you also fall back upon. Yet in this situation, "the people" have made their voices heard, whether in the civic, committee process that drafted the Code of Conduct, or in the voting booth when electing members of the school board. If the result is unsatisfactory, no doubt the civic process for changing that will occur -- provided that "the people" exercise their roles, from the committee process through to the voting booth.
Fed Up November 15, 2012 at 01:09 PM
Yo JERRY! The police were ready for this house and they had enough officers to deal with this house because what I understand this is not the first trip to that house for parties. You and I as tax payers do not run the police department. So quit the talk that you run the place there are state/federal laws that govern Police Departments. My child opted not to go to that party because my child said they knew there was going to be booze there. My guess is Jerry you didn't have a child strong email to resist peer pressure. If you think you have the right to set punishment for your child over the police then keep your child home instead of running the Streets!
joe torre November 15, 2012 at 01:46 PM
Fed Up, BRAVO
SportzFan November 15, 2012 at 02:47 PM
Well said Judy.
Ted Schnell (Editor) November 15, 2012 at 04:46 PM
I meant to write earlier -- well-said, Judy.
stcmom November 15, 2012 at 05:11 PM
I could not agree more, Carol. Imagine what the 10 year old was thinking about this whole ordeal. Not really an appropriate environment for a 10 year old to be around, if you ask me. I believe this lady needs to stop offering to host parties for her teenagers because it appears that she cannot control or handle the situation especially if this is the 3rd party since August that have involved incidents affecting her neighbors properties and the neighborhood. It is time for her to stop being her teenagers' best friend and start being a parent. It's never too late to step up. Glad noone was hurt....phew!
stcmom November 15, 2012 at 05:16 PM
I agree, Joe. Parents are letting their kids get away with far too much nowadays. $500 fine means nothing for this woman....$ is not an issue for her. There needs to be stiffer punishments especially for this particular woman since she has now hosted 3 parties with no good outcomes. It is sad that some people just do not get it. Time to be a parent....not a best friend! Right? How can she have her kids learn from their mistakes if she keeps allowing these situations to be present? Hmmmm....
David Potter November 15, 2012 at 06:48 PM
We need to quit throwing stones at people. Nobody got hurt, the host got reprimanded and all the kids got the shit scared out of them and learned a good lesson. Let it go and worry about your own families!!!!!!!!!!!
StcStudent November 15, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Lol, you people are rediculous. I feel bad for this woman. This is extremely humiliating . She should have known better... However, she may not have realized how many kids would show up. It would be quite difficult to control that many kids. Regardless, if there are that many kids anywhere there is going to be alcohol. I graduated St. Charles East a short while ago. News flash- any time your kids are going to someone's house, a party etc. they are drinking or doing drugs. Instead of complaining about this women's bad judgement maybe you should start paying attention to your own children. How about you become a good parent, don't let your children go to parties unless you have talked to their parents. If the parent's of these children had done so then perhaps the kids wouldn't have had to suffer the consequences. Stop your complaining. Mind your own business. Watch your own kid.
Momof3 November 20, 2012 at 06:22 PM
StcStudent - You might want to use spell check before you post telling all of us what to do, just saying . . . When you are a parent, you will have a much better understanding of this situation. This sure is humiliating for the homeowner. It should be! Very irresponsible behavior by an adult. Thankfully the police handled the situation and no one was hurt or killed by drunk teens leaving the party and driving home. I would love to talk to you again once you are a parent!
The Law is the Law April 09, 2013 at 02:15 PM
So, what is the point of the code of conduct? If the school does not even enforce it. So, if parents say it is ok and the school says it is ok and the coaches don't mind and the police barely fine the parents. But, kids still die, when will society wake up? Prom season is here and instead of kids going to Post Prom and being safe, they are planning huge parties because parents are willing to buy the keg. Maybe when they wake up to kids who are alcoholics before they are legal, probably not! As far as the parties in the 70's & 80's are parents did not buy it or support it. If we got caught we got in trouble and learned from our mistakes that it was wrong and against the law.
The Law is the Law April 09, 2013 at 02:25 PM
Interesting to see a STC Past Student is smarter then the Mom of 3. Forgot about the spell check - how about parents start using common sense and keep their kids home from the parties.

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