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‘Patronize This’: City Hits St. Charles Bar With 3 Citations

The House Pub faces a fine, costs and a possible suspension of its liquor license when it appears before the St. Charles Liquor Commission over a profanity-laced incident on March 15.

The city has slapped a St. Charles bar with three liquor code citations in which the bar is accused of allowing an intoxicated man to enter and then served him a drink, leading to a profanity-laced confrontation between one of the owners and police.

Ave., faces fines and the possible suspension or revocation of its liquor license over the March 15 incident, according to the citation and notice of hearing the city issued this week.

Accompanying the citation is a five-page police report, which includes four pages of officers’ narratives about the incident.

Originally reported by police as an incident involving two potential citations — one for allowing an intoxicated person to enter the establishment, and a second for serving the intoxicated individual an alcoholic beverage — the city added a third citation charging the establishment with interfering or obstructing with an officer.

The House Pub has been ordered to appear before the St. Charles Liquor Commission at 4:30 p.m. Monday, April 8, 2013, in regard to the citations.

Early on March 15, two St. Charles police officers saw an intoxicated man stumbling around downtown and followed him into The House Pub, where they learned the man had been served a Jameson and Coke.

The city’s liquor code prohibits bars from “harboring” intoxicated individuals or allowing them to enter their establishments, as well as barring the establishments from serving alcoholic beverages to someone who is drunk. City officials commonly refer to the latter practice as over-serving alcohol.

Inside the bar, police said one of the owners, Thomas P. Wojcik, began arguing with the officers when they informed him they would be reporting the incident to the liquor commission. Police said Wojick became progressively more profane, at one point making a crotch-grabbing gesture and telling a sergeant to “Patronize this.”

Related:

  • March 19, 2013: St. Charles Bar Faces Citation for Serving Intoxicated Individual

 

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Ted Schnell (Editor) March 27, 2013 at 09:26 PM
The cop has to find a place to safely put his car before he gets out of it, Debbie. Both the officers were in their cars waiting at a stoplight when this began to transpire.
joe torre March 27, 2013 at 10:33 PM
Emma Rae told us one of the biggest problems and that's owners not wanting to upset a customer by cutting him off. It's obvious the mentality of the owners is a joke. So these owners that just do what they want to do are saying are challenging the laws. They just don't get it. All they look at is the money and they do whatever they want to do. So to stop these people hit them hard. Close them for a month and say "patronize this".
Alan Harter March 27, 2013 at 11:15 PM
Joe....how about we have BAC bracelets...you have to wear one to enter....and as you become drunk...the color changes to red...if your bracelet is red you don't get served...yellow you should slow down...green you are good to go...and while we are at it lets microchip everyone for tracking purposes cause that's what we need too...People can't take responsibility for themselves after all
gs March 28, 2013 at 12:52 AM
20 years ago StC decided they wanted their downtown to be like Naperville. But instead of a lot of nice restaurants, they ended up with a bunch of dive bars that attract every drunken bum in Kane County!
Alan Harter March 28, 2013 at 12:58 AM
When the tax money comes in from those bums via those horrible establishments I don't see the gracious lords and ladies who run the lilly white (pure) city government turning that sinful money away...now do they? LOL
James March 28, 2013 at 02:22 AM
Ted i think you need a new job. You are subpar and get way too involved as an editor. Let the people talk. We do not care to hear your jaded perspective over and over again. Take a page out of Jeff wards book and get out before people learn about you past history.
Ted Schnell (Editor) March 28, 2013 at 02:35 AM
James, what history are you talking about? I have nothing to hide, and I believe my perspective is not jaded but pragmatic. I jump in when asked questions or when someone knowingly or unknowingly says something I know to be false. Then I try to provide the facts as I know or understand them. I read the five pages of police report on this incident. Most of the readers looking at this story have not. Journalism is about truth. I take that seriously, regardless of your view of me or the work I do. Get over it pal. I work here.
joe torre March 28, 2013 at 06:50 AM
Allen sounds like he owns one of the bars. Very testy. Hey Ted keep doing what your doing and tell James to "Patrinize This".
joe torre March 28, 2013 at 06:53 AM
Patronize
Alan Harter March 28, 2013 at 01:08 PM
No Joe, I grew up in St. Charles, not much of a drinker..rarely ever go to bars...but can't stand hypocracy...and when you make a law that is supposed to be to protect people and turn it into a revenue source...well...the line seems to get abused by the law and the city officials going for the $$. I can tell you read carefully Joe...see...I spelled your name corectly (Alan, not Allen) Cheers!
Ted Schnell (Editor) March 28, 2013 at 03:55 PM
It's still news, Clint, whether you want it to be or not. Reader interest in this issue is very high.
Ted Schnell (Editor) March 28, 2013 at 07:07 PM
I politely decline, Clint. This is part of my job.
Ted Schnell (Editor) March 28, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Clint, you are entitled to your opinion, but please be aware of Patch's terms of serve, too. Thanks.
joe torre March 28, 2013 at 10:36 PM
I don't get it . What's the big deal with Ted voicing his opinion? This topic is about the drinking problems in town not a shooting gallery at Ted.
Ted Schnell (Editor) March 28, 2013 at 11:38 PM
I don't think it should be a big deal, Joe, and generally, I try to avoid my opinion and interject with other viewpoints for folks to consider, or to correct errors via speculation that do not ring true with the factual accounts I report. The purpose is to facilitate discussion based on knowledge of the facts and issues. Sometimes opinions ignore the facts -- either because people haven't read the stories or because I did not write something clearly enough. Sometimes, there are facts from police reports, for example, that I do not include in the story for the sake of brevity. When people ask questions and I know the answers, I respond. When people assert something I know to be false, I respond. If I don't know, I try to point out other scenarios that folks have not considered. All in all, I try to keep to the facts and I shoot for fairness. Some people do not appreciate being corrected. That's life.
Alan Harter March 29, 2013 at 02:06 AM
Joe, I don't think I ever mentioned Ted, Ted, I think you did a fine enough job reporting from what the reports you read said. My problem is with the way the laws that have been created can be manipulated by the police and the local government...just like the red light cameras...to be a revenue first law...not really to protect and be a help. When you mask a less than savory intention by calling it good for the people...that's when I get irritated. But as I had said way, way back...the owner took the wrong approach...an aggressive and childish response to the officers accusations.
Ted Schnell (Editor) March 29, 2013 at 02:33 AM
Alan, thank you. And I understand your concerns about the law.
Ted Schnell (Editor) March 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Clint, I can't help but wondering what opinion you think I have on this issue. Also, you have been resorting to name calling. It's been my experience that that is the last resort of those who realize their position is unsupportable. Interestingly, I know many others who have had the same experience. You want to continue calling me a tool or loser, fine. Go ahead, if that makes you feel better. But again, I remind you of Patch's terms of service. There are consequences for personal attacks.
Ted Schnell (Editor) March 29, 2013 at 01:36 PM
Clint, just what the heck do you think calling someone a tool is? It's modern slang for loser.
joe torre March 29, 2013 at 02:10 PM
Wow Clint, this is not worth getting so worked up about. Maybe you should find something to do today instead of harping over and over. Hey, if you don't like what Ted is doing then do us all a favor and don't go on patch. You sound like you have issues.
Msettel March 29, 2013 at 03:31 PM
Unfortunately, most residents of St. Charles have been living in the "Family Circle" mentaility since the magazine reported we are such a great community to raise a family. Far to many people won't ackowledge the darker side and secrets of STC and the disgustingly high alcohol related arrests and incidents. I am a downtown resident and parent, and although extremely proud to live in St. Charles for many reasons, I am often embarrassed when I have friends and colleagues to entertain from out-of-town, and their reaction to the amount of bars, stumbling people after midnight, lack of retail, etc. We are often viewed as "the town with a lot of bars". I greatly appreciate the efforts of many business owners and bar owners to try and change the negative reputation STC is developing and it is due time we all get involved to make this town the incredible community "Family Circle" claims us to be. Many of our elected officials play into the trap of the "old boys" club & families who have controlled STC for far too many years. There is a hand full of decision makers and business owners who pressure most of the decisions that dictate our overcrowded bar scene. The one great job of our new mayor will be to get this under control once and for all. Thank goodness someone like Jake Wyatt is willing to stand up for the residents and finally bring a great leadership and business sense back to our downtown. Stop giving out liquor licenses to everyone who asks, like our last mayor!!
Alan Harter March 29, 2013 at 05:03 PM
Msettel...you do realize...I'm guessing the reason all those liquor licenses were granted was because the one type of business that seems to keep making proffit and making them tax money has been bars. The Malls (Old STC and Charlestown) have either failed or are in great decline...many businesses have collapsed, but the bars just seem to keep on going. I think the reasoning is less political and more the financial greed.
Msettel March 29, 2013 at 05:28 PM
I believe it is equally the responsibility of our mayor and elected officials to act on behalf of the residents of this town, who are mainly uneducated on the process for bringing new business, maintaining existing business, and refuse to get involved in the process. I personally know the majority of the restaurant and bar owners and they are true businessmen, however, there comes a time when the mayor needs to look closely at his role as liquor commissioner and halt the increased crime, infidelity, divorce rate, DUIs, and look at the broader picture when recruiting new business and revenue.
Ted Schnell (Editor) March 29, 2013 at 06:57 PM
Clint, I never said you are not entitled to your opinion. But, regardless of what your opinion is, Patch's terms of service disallow personal attacks, even if they are opinion. The right to free speech, for example, does not give you the right to defame someone, just as it does not give you the right to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater.
Alan Harter March 29, 2013 at 07:29 PM
Msettel..you had me till you made an elected official the morality police regarding infidelity and divorce...that is not their place, or their responsibility...that is soley the individuals in that relationship...you need to really think about that, the rest was perfectly reasonable.
Msettel March 29, 2013 at 07:58 PM
On the contrary Mr. Harter, I was simply trying to reflect on the notion that resisents are hiding behind the "Family Circle" facade that has been xreates ans the increaae in liquor licenes and the now later cutoff time has other negative effects on our town as a whole. There is a big picture here ans House Pub is certainly not an isolated insident. ...as I'm sure most readers are well aware.
Msettel March 29, 2013 at 08:06 PM
My apology for the many misspelled words...new phone, new tiny buttons.
Alan Harter March 29, 2013 at 08:28 PM
I was a resident born at old Delenor, went through the school system and lived there till I was 27...As good as St. Charles could be...many residents felt they were a bit too good...bad attitudes as far as entitlement, and the bars...for some reason a high level of alcohlism lol
Mitch Riverman April 02, 2013 at 01:40 AM
Please report the man blood alcohol content. I am sure it is in the police report along with his arrest for public intoxication.
Ted Schnell (Editor) April 02, 2013 at 05:55 AM
It was not in the report, Mitch. To my knowledge, the police rarely administer a Breathalyzer or blood test to measure blood-alcohol content outside of DUI incidents. Officers are trained, however, to evaluate individuals' general level of intoxication based on such things as balance/coordination, among other factors -- surely you've seen officers have individuals do roadsie sobriety tests before.

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